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Thursday 4 January 2024

Melbourne's Botanic Gardens Shooting Spree Norman List 23 January 1924

 Almost a century ago a young man displayed worrying mental health symptoms - paranoia, believing wireless messages were being sent to his mind to control him, to hurt his family, that people were telling lies about him and his family, that his enemies had a radio system that advertised him everywhere he went...(I'd like to know what Professor Graeme Yorston made of him).

After tramping all over the world, fighting in WW1, Norman List returned to his family home in Richmond, Victoria, where these symptoms were on full display.

This all came out after the horrific shooting spree he orchestrated at the Melbourne Botanic Gardens; in just 4 minutes four people were dead.

Their names were

Frederick McIlwaine
Miriam Podbury
Eugenie Strohhecker
John Moxham

Norman List himself was found dead by suicide at Deep Creek near Pakenham, Victoria.
Further reading - 

Murderous Swaggie ; Albert Andrew Moss aka Mad Mossy 1939 Narromine Murders

 Mad Mossy was a highly intelligent individual with a talent for getting out of arrests...by acting insane.



Born in Narromine in approx. 1878, his grandfather was John Morse/Moss, a convict sent over from UK for stealing a pig, his father James Moss is considered "Australian Royalty" , his siblings were all hard-working, well-respected members of the area.
But not Andrew.

He was well known to the local police before he first appeared in court, charged with forgery at age 17, for which he got a solid 12 months hard labour. After that he managed to "put on the mad act" (as he later admitted) and got himself sent to various lunatic asylums; Callan Park, Parramatta, Gladesville, Orange Asylum, whenever he was caught he avoided gaol with the usual "mad act". He was also charged with child r*pe in 1926 but got 7 years in Gladesville Asylum, being let out in early 1933. 

He was declared insane 14 times, declared sane 12 times and he escaped from asylums twice.

He roamed far and wide; he didn't always stick to his home area sometimes turning up in Bourke, Wentworth, Broken Hill, Sydney, etc. Also, it was during the Great Depression with many people on the move looking for work, so, although he was found guilty of 3 murders, he claimed many more and the police were unable to locate another 15 travelling companions who had been last seen in his company.

Sentenced to death, it was later commuted to a life sentence as there was some query as to his mental health.

Shortly after arriving at Long Bay Gaol Mad Mossy became the unofficial chess champion, beating prisoners and warders alike, when he wasn't finishing crosswords.

He popped his clogs at age 80 in Long Bay in 1958.


Further details;

NARROMINE MURDER Accused's Remarkable "Confession"

LUNATIC RELEASED TWELVE TIMES Murdered 3 men

Could He Have Been Insane? ALBERT ANDREW MOSS

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